I'm sorry, I misread that and thought you were talking about skin pigment!
Hope your shoulder is better.
two weeks ago i let everybody know we made it safe to our new home.
what i did not tell you the move was very hard on me.
i ended up straining my right shoulder so bad i could not even keep my arm up on the key board to type.
I'm sorry, I misread that and thought you were talking about skin pigment!
Hope your shoulder is better.
i have been an avid reader on this site for a few years and have weighed in on a few topics and introduced a few more without introducing myself.
for this i apologise.
the main reason for my reticence is that being a second generation born in but having been baptised in the 50s i will find it difficult to make an introduction without giving the game away.
Thanks mthed and jair. Thanks also for the tips jgnat. I also love to turn a conversation non-spiritual. On Saturday I did it on a friends RV, she was trying to get a scripture in and I was asking the man about his career.
i have been an avid reader on this site for a few years and have weighed in on a few topics and introduced a few more without introducing myself.
for this i apologise.
the main reason for my reticence is that being a second generation born in but having been baptised in the 50s i will find it difficult to make an introduction without giving the game away.
I have been an avid reader on this site for a few years and have weighed in on a few topics and introduced a few more without introducing myself. For this I apologise. I now want to at least say something about myself.
The main reason for my reticence is that being a second generation born in but having been baptised in the 50s I will find it difficult to make an introduction without giving the game away.
I was a child baptism statistic, went through serious doubts but told myself to bury them and get on with it. I was a pioneer and an elder, appointed during the 70s serving for years before falling foul of the JC and getting disfellowshipped. I fought my way back having been genuinely chastened by my "sin" and the response to it; I think though that my behaviour was some form of subconscious rebellion forcing its way through in response to buried doubts.
I was once again appointed as an elder and tried hard to be a sympathetic ear rather than a martinet, a society man. To cut a long story short my doubts became more and more powerful and I have fallen foul of the "loving" judicial system several times but have managed to be reinstated simply for the sake of being with my family.
I don't think that I can speak openly of details of my life; there have been blood issue related deaths. There have been real tragedies as well as genuinely uplifting experience. If I told my story openly and frankly there would be knocks on the door in no time.
Most ordinary brothers have been really good people trying to follow a faith that they believe to be true. I believe that most have simply got too much time and life invested in this ostrich to consider seriously living without it.
The issues I trip on are many but include:
The multiple dates, I lived through the build up to 1975 and remember with disgust the society's lame WT article passing the blame on to us. What hypocrisy!
The changing stance on blood, I was one that believed that blood was forbidden. Period. Then gradually the stance was watered down until the doctrine is hardly recognisable. If you are going to make a stand and really believe in the resurrection at least have the courage of your convictions. Now I recognise the whole thing as being the whim of the self appointed gnomes of Brooklyn. Does God really expect us to sacrifice our sacred lives in this way? I weep for the many including family and friends who have been sacrificed on this alter.
The generation, I wish I had a dollar for every time I read that scripture to an older person telling them it was their generation that Jesus specifically talked about. Now we have this desperate fudge that is presented to us. They look us straight in the eye and dare us to question what they say. If we express what we really think we know what follows.
The ridiculous and desperate attempt to fight back the tide of knowledge and convincing theory on evolution is depressing. We now get a fudging of the time factor as previously firmly held facts unravel. The old "truth" is not openly retracted but simply stepped around with weasel words. The constant misquoting and use of dubious sources to bolster up a position is dishonest and beneath contempt.
I know that morally speaking my position is untenable, why am I still a member? It is the old story. I have a family who depend on me. They know broadly how I feel but they are woven into a "marry only in the Lord" family mesh as are we all. It works well doesn't it, this tight web held together by fear of shunning.
In the meantime I bide my time going through the motions and hoping for something, anything that brings all this to a head.
There is so much more to tell but for now, good luck to you all. ( I couldn't even say that in the KH).
SF
has anyone heard anything new on this or any violations by the society?.
i am interested in hearing anything from anyone who has withdrawn consent and if it worked or if they had any trouble?.
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I hear that S8s are going to be reintroduced, they were originally taken out of circulation because of fear of the act. My understanding is that they have a pathalogical fear of record keepin especially in the congregations. They no longer (officially) keep any record of JC hearings etc. at least at cong. level, in case they blow up in their faces.
bastard call me up at midnight to tell how great the wt is.wtf i was sleeping.
i gave him a half hour lesson about the cross and how long it took jesus to die.
and how the torture stake would only keep you alive for about less than 30 minutes if that.
Paul Gilles a MEMBER OF THE FDS IN BED WITH THE WILD BEAST?
No problem with your sentiments but on a point of fact Paul Gillies although a senior member of London Bethel is not yet FDS. The way things are going though he will probably take the emblems and be a member of the GB in about 18 months. They are looking a bit thin on the ground. If a few more die off we will be back to a president and VP.
everyone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .
what are your views on life after death?.
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The best thing about the 'troof' is that it frees you from worries about hellfire and damnation. I rest easy knowing that death is just sleep. I don't expect to wake from that sleep but where is the fear in that? I no longer buy into any of the claptrap the borg offers but I have emerged free of any fear of death.
The whole thing seems to be a big hole in the WTBS teaching you go to sleep and are then unaware of anything. All those who have died are unrewarded but also unpunished, none are aware. It only matters as a construct to those living.
The punishment or reward is just the same at the time of death - sleep, non-existance, absence. Resurrection is not you it is only a clone of you.
it starts in less than 5 mins.... has everybody got their fave country's flag and got their wine/beer and european nibblies ready?.
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Azurbyjan ..... what? What is the capital? Has it got a capital?
more than anything in the world.
more than anything in the world.
more than anything in the world.
Aaaah The Macallan
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when i was growing up i was told that the "holy spirit" assisted in the selection of elders.
A brother in my congregation brown-nosed for years, the stink of sh$t preceded him where ever he went. I have never seen any one so desperate or ill qualified to be an elder. Then, I don't know how, he was appointed. He and his wife strutted like lords.
He went on holiday, came back and was removed a week later, not even a MS. A record I think. Three weeks for thirty years brown nosing.
there was a report on the tv last night about a pakistani christian woman sentenced to death.
for blaspheming the prophet ( mohamed i suppose).. she was working in the fields with two muslims.
it was hot and she had a drink of water.. she offered some to the two muslims but they would not drink from the same cup as a christian.
They also preach that most of those will fall in a human caused self-destruction, a global great catastrophic tribulation (you do the math). We are not unaware of the depopulation agenda of the UN NWO, as many are, not to mention the potential annihilation in the nuclear arsenal, which HAARP weapons can make look like firecrackers.
Total bollox. They teach that this destuction will come at the mighty hand of God.